Anonymous said: /post/88372909704/ What did I say/do wrong?
I’m going to assume this is in response to my telling you to try harder when asking why I don’t want to engage in “polite discourse.” I’m only going to say this once, and you can send me as many asks as you want, but you won’t be getting a response after this.
There is no reasoning with people who refuse to be reasoned with. I’m also going to assume this question is in regards to the protest I participated in to cancel the men’s rights conference in Detroit, because I have no idea what else you could be talking about.
I have no interest in explaining, over and over again, why men are NOT oppressed. Every single topic being covered at that conference has already been addressed or is already being addressed by feminists, and the discussions that A Voice for Men plans to have are bound to be useless, at best. I’ll even take the time to break this down for you and tell you why every single topic they have slated is going to be discussed in a manner that’s so fucking biased, it hurts.
Fatherhood and Governance
AVfM likes to claim that women are granted custody more than men in custody battles after a divorce. This is true. However, if a man ASKS for custody, he’s going to get it. They’ll also talk about how men have no say in whether a woman gets an abortion should she end up pregnant. And this is true; men have little to no say. But they want to have a say, because no one wants women to have bodily autonomy. You do not have, and you do not deserve, the right to tell me what to do with my body.
Additionally, let’s talk about child support. Women want child support from men who fathered their children, but they rarely file for it. The stories you hear about women having babies just to get more money out of men are cultural myths and rank right up there with the Welfare Queen: they aren’t real.
Domestic Violence and Feminism
They’re probably going to cite the statistic that women hit first in domestic violence, but men get prosecuted more often. That would be because women “hit” first in an effort to defend themselves from the blow that’s coming. The “hit” can refer to anything from holding out your arms to prevent an attacker from getting close enough to you, thereby pushing him away; to a duck and a punch to get out of the situation as quickly as possible. But they aren’t going to tell you that at their little conference. They aren’t going to give facts and figures because, according to Paul Elam, statistics are just lies made up by academia. I’m disgusted that I’m not even kidding about that.
It also won’t take into account domestic violence among the LGBT population. Because that’s not about cisgender white men.
The Crisis Relationship
I don’t even know what the hell they’re planning to do with this, but I’m willing to bet it will be chock full of logical fallacies regarding gender structure and power within relationships.
See “Fatherhood and Governance.”
I don’t even know where to start. MRAs are willing to go apeshit over the mere idea that men aren’t the center of the universe. Their ideas of “misandry” typically include such terrible things as women learning that they have a 1 in 4 chance of being sexually assaulted by the time they graduate college, and I’m guessing they’re going to touch on the fact that there are now more women than men in higher ed. But they’re not going to tell you that more men FINISH college than women, and they certainly aren’t going to tell you that sexual assault against women is real. For the most part, they don’t even believe rape is legitimate. And that is fucking terrifying.
Misandry in Media
See “Cultural Misandry” and think about shows like Law and Order: SVU, which regularly focuses on rape and sexual assault cases,and probably shows like Family Guy, where the father is seen as entirely inept. The thing is that the stories in SVU are typically pulled from the headlines and then twisted around a bit for fiction’s sake, and although Peter Griffin is inept as fuck, Lois always forgives him and stays with him despite the fact that he’s a complete jerk. Also, Seth McFarlane is a misogynist asshole.
Men, Grief, and Loss
This will probably touch on the high suicide rate among men. But guess what! It doesn’t take two very important facts into account:
1.) Men succeed more often, but women try more often.
2.) Their numbers don’t take into account trans men, because they don’t view trans men as men.
Blue Collar Invisible Man
This is going to be all about how blue collar male workers are ignored in every aspect everywhere all the time ever. Which just isn’t true. The majority of legislation in this country, and worldwide, centers around the blue collar worker and supporting the myth of individuality that neoliberal politics absolutely depend on in order to survive.
But you’re not going to hear “neoliberal” at this conference at all. Because that would be getting down to the base of an issue, and that’s not what these people do.
The Men’s Movement
Likely an introduction to the MRM with ridiculous claims backed up by little to no actual support.
See “The Men’s Movement.”
See “Fatherhood and Governance.” This is literally the exact same topic.
Men in the Military
They’re going to talk about the draft, which hasn’t been utilized since the 1970s. They’re going to talk about how women don’t have to sign up for the draft. But feminists have been fighting for this to happen since the “second wave,” so their entire lecture is a moot point.
Young Men in Education
See “Cultural Misandry.”
Circumcision is genital mutilation. End of story. They’re going to talk about how it’s not illegal, something that, again, feminists have already been working on. And if they touch on how women think a circumcised penis is more attractive than an intact one, then they’re entirely ignoring the culture that makes that sort of thing “acceptable.” They’re also ignoring that there are men who like penises, too.
Hope I answered that whole “polite discourse” question for you. I look forward to the anon hate that’s about to fill my inbox.
Anonymous said: Black is beautiful. White is beautiful and every other color in between is also beautiful. :)
I dunnoooo I think you already know that “White is beautiful” don’t you?
Or will it shatter your beauty if I recognize mine?
please keep your self centered ignorance, micro-agressions and derailing all to yourself
These kind of post makes me so mad and i can’t do something else than hate these people smh
when discussing custody arrangements, make sure you argue how women are awarded custody more often, ignoring that this is generally in pre-arranged cases, and that men who actively seek custody get it at much higher rates, even in cases of abuse.
also when discussing suicide statistics, mention that men commit suicide at higher rates, and ignore that women ATTEMPT suicide at higher rates, but that men typically tend to choose methods that are less likely to fail.